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  The Governing Body-Faded apostates?

  by John Aquila in

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  ive been here less than a year, but ive notice that the majority of us have faded for various reasons.

  we also read the stories of those who got disfellowshipped or disassociated themselves.

  in the majority of the cases, their parents will not talk to the children for years and the children will not talk to the parents even if they are dying.

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  adjusted knowledge

  It is quite possible that a good portion of the GB know the entire religion is BS. They know the TATT better than anyone. So not quite sure what you are getting at. Are we to feel some empathy because they may very well be non-believers? They or even one of them could make some attempts in meaningful reform. However, they still push no education, no blood, shunning, and horrible treatment of children that have been molested.
  

  ust like us, bidding their time and enjoying what they have at the moment, until either they die or until the jig is up and it’s all gone.

  Isn’t that what we are doing?

  No, not at all. I left but my situation is different. Those that stay in faded are not responsible for the horrible policies that are enforced and written. These are men that make the rules, and are not simple "bidding their time." They are active in spreading lies and damaging the lives of countless ones.
  
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  Are You "Technically" Still A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

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  even if you don't regard yourself as a practicing jw, some may view you simply as inactive, a lost sheep, etc.. if you were baptized but not disfellowshipped or disassociated, you may still be a jw---right?

  your thoughts please..

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  I haven't given a field service report since 1999 and that was sporadic. The last time I was really active was 1995 when I was 18. I don't consider myself a witness nor does anyone else. I've had Elders visit and told me that if I was to come back nothing I did over the last two decades would matter. Seems kinda of strange that you can fade and be inactive and viewed as a lost sheep, but if disfellowship you're garbage.
  
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  By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.

  by FadingTruth in

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  2. bible

  august 2015 awake .

  quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.

  why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.

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  The WT featured a Chinese scientist in one of their articles that converted to JW. He probably is used often for quotes so they have some credentials to their statements.
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  Creationist Discovers 60 million Year Old Fish Fossils - Insists that they date to Noah's Flood 4500 years ago

  by OrphanCrow in

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  it is astounding that someone like this creationist can have no appreciation for the scientific significance of his discovery.

  even in the face of evidence to the contrary, those who chose to believe rather than know will never forsake their ignorance.. alberta creationist discovers rare fish fossils in basement dig (full article and video).

  "an alberta man who discovered a school of rare fossilized fish while digging up a calgary basement believes the world was created by god a few thousand years ago.. it's for that reason edgar nernberg doesn't think the fossils could possibly be as old as paleontologists are estimating.. "i subscribe to the creationist position, and i believe they were laid down in noah's flood, about 4,500 years ago.

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  I worked with a manager that was a devout Baptist. He gave a similar response to carbon 14. He also didn't believe in dinosaurs. He claims all fossil records were manufactured and a conspiracy (lies). I didn't bother arguing with him. I was once like him, but then again I was a 15 year old JW at the time.
  
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  If you found out TTATT at 80 and spent your entire life at Bethel, what would you do?

  by John Aquila in

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  would you do a ray franz deal and write a book or keep quiet and live out the rest of your life in bethel?.

  would you keep reading the watchtower magazine?.

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  I would do a porno with other 80 year olds from the local assisted living facility, and use the JW studio. It would be next months broadcast.
  
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  Creationist Discovers 60 million Year Old Fish Fossils - Insists that they date to Noah's Flood 4500 years ago

  by OrphanCrow in

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  it is astounding that someone like this creationist can have no appreciation for the scientific significance of his discovery.

  even in the face of evidence to the contrary, those who chose to believe rather than know will never forsake their ignorance.. alberta creationist discovers rare fish fossils in basement dig (full article and video).

  "an alberta man who discovered a school of rare fossilized fish while digging up a calgary basement believes the world was created by god a few thousand years ago.. it's for that reason edgar nernberg doesn't think the fossils could possibly be as old as paleontologists are estimating.. "i subscribe to the creationist position, and i believe they were laid down in noah's flood, about 4,500 years ago.

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  I think it is foolish to put dates on things like this because men cannot be trusted and are - sadly - LIARS and scam artist who will sell their mothers for money or fame. For everyone make such a claim, you can find another scientist making a counter claim.

  The beauty of scientific research is that the data is reported, and is tested by other scientist. It is standard scientific method to date with carbon 14 to get an accurate date, in addition to other methods.
  
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  California Supreme Court Case - S226656

  by Gayle in

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  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.

  started 5/27/2015.

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  Case law is important, and this may just be an avenue to get more favorable rulings. With each favorable ruling they could use in defense for pending litigation.
  
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  Would you like to live for ever on earth?

  by fulano in

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  i was discussing this topic with two friends of mine, ex jws, a few nights ago.

  i think it would be boring after a while.

  you can't smoke, have to drink with moderation (difficult in europe with all the wines).

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  I don't know about forever, but our life span is very short. A hundred or even two hundred years is not long at all. Too many of us won't see 100 years, and for those that get close the quality of life isn't that great. We spend 1/3 our life sleeping, and countless hours working. In a future society of healthy living with more time devoted to things I enjoy, then definitely wouldn't mind a very long life.
  
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  How Much Do Circuit Overseers Make Under the Table, and is it Taxable?

  by Tazemanian-devil in

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  i was thinking about green handshakes, and i knew my wife and i personally would try to slide at least $100 each c.o visit to the c.o.

  if we were low on cash, we'd never hand him less than $20.

  how many of such handshakes does he receive in a weeks time?

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  I never heard of the green hand shake until last year, and it wasn't from here; it was from a current Elder. I was having a conversation with him about how does a CO support themselves in old age. He told me it was very common for the CO and his wife to receive $20 from members in the congregation. In fact I believe from the conversation it is actually encouraged. He told me he knew a few CO that save enough in 30 years to retire comfortably in Peru and other South American countries.
  

  I was a naive child when active, and was only aware of the free food and lodging. I didn't know about the green handshakes. Even in poor congregations that could be $100 to $200 in a week. It might not sound like much, but tax free and no expenses that adds up fast.
  
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  Official List of Helpers to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

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  official current list as published by watchtower >>> here.

  official list of governing body of jehovahs witnesses helpers.

  list of governing body of jehovahs witnesses helpers.

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  adjusted knowledge

  I've asked about the Helpers in previous posts. I left when the position was first created in the 90's, or at least I never heard of them until recently. I think they are the ones in line for future GB positions.